Monday, April 30, 2007

Republican "Logic"

Republicans have never been good at logic because logic involves reasoning and sound judgment. Two concepts that are eternally on the Republican endangered ideas list. The famous, or infamous, Reagan supply-side economic theory argues that selective tax cuts raise revenues and are good for the economy. The idea that some tax cuts are good has now, by Republican “logic,” been transformed into the demonstrably false proposition that all tax cuts always increase revenues and are always good for the economy -- in times of peace, war, surplus or deficit. All evidence to the contrary is merely an inconvenient truth for Republican “logic. Tax cuts get votes today while the cost for the tax cuts is paid for by someone else many years later. Fiscal recklessness does have some logic to it even if it’s craven political logic.

In the 1980s Republicans argued huge defense spending increases were needed to defeat the Soviet Union and win the Cold War. The Berlin Wall did fall but not simply because of bigger defense budgets. Hungary decided to remove its border restrictions with Austria, allowing any East German to get to the West through this back door land bridge. Once the flow of people started, East German border guards, faced with thousands of their own protesters wanting the same thing, simply opened the gates of the Berlin Wall and a post-Cold War world. The Republican argument is that the spending increases were justified since we won the Cold War. But if defense spending increases didn’t defeat the enemy then they would also have been justified -- they would have just been “keeping up” with the threat from the other side. Thus Republican “logic” argues for increased defense spending always, in every year, in times of peace and in times of war, hot or cold, because it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Spend to achieve victory, spend to not fall behind.

Now add to that the new Republican “logic” of war everywhere, all the time, without end. Otherwise the terrorists “win.” Just listen to Vice President Dick Cheney talking to Rush Limbaugh on his radio show: “[The Democrats] seem to think that we can withdraw from Iraq and walk away from it. They ignore the lessons of the past. Remember what happened in Afghanistan. We'd been involved in Afghanistan in the eighties, supporting the Mujahadeen against the Soviets and prevailed. We won. Everybody walked away, and in the nineties, Afghanistan became a safe haven for terrorists, an area for training camps where al-Qaeda trained 20,000 terrorists in the late nineties, and the base from which they launched attacks on the United States on 9/11. So those are very real problems, and to advocate withdrawal from Iraq at this point, it seems to me, simply would play right into the hands of al-Qaeda.” His “logic,” the “logic” of the Republican party is a permanent occupation of countries where we intervene militarily. Withdrawal after invading only emboldens the terrorists even if we “win.” “We won,” Cheney says of Afghanistan but we “walked away.” What Cheney proposes is that after we “win” in Iraq, or anywhere else, we can’t just “walk away” – we have to stay there forever. And since military action and occupation inevitably creates more terrorists, we must stay to fight them as well so they cannot claim victory. Cheney’s “logic” is so exquisitely circular that it makes Catch-22 seem like a reasonable proposition.

Bush and Cheney, backed up by the Republican party, advocate permanent occupation and endless war. Under their logic a “win” only demands you continue your military intervention in that country lest the terrorist claim victory. This isn’t nation building, this is empire building and since they haven’t even done the former I’d bet everything I own they’ll never accomplish the latter even if it were a good idea - which it isn’t.

The Iraq war is Bush’s war. It’s Cheney’s war. America has spoken in every poll and in the 2006 election – this isn’t America’s war anymore and they want out. Bush is opposed to congressional deadlines for withdrawal from Iraq because his intention is to stay there forever. Otherwise the terrorists “win.” With “logic” like that I can’t understand why his approval rating hovers around 30%. It should be much, much lower.

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Blogger Capt. Fogg said...

I think it's clear that Cheney planned a permanent occupation from the beginning and that the occupation would be managed by and for the profit of Halliburton and a mercenary army.

That he still thinks he can implement this is a monument to his increasing dementia. I don't use the world lightly either. A man of his age with his vascular problems is a prime candidate for dementia and I am convinced we're seeing the signs of it.

He's gone back to making claims he admitted were false and his personality grows more suspicious and hostile. He's a sick man.

8:22 AM  
Blogger mrsleep said...

Sick man. Yes indeed.

American's understand sports very well. In Iraq we are playing a "prevent defense".

What amazes me is that the loyalists don't understand the it should be clear to anyone with an IQ above 50, that our approach will never succeed.

I'm not sure, any approach would have ever succeeded, but decisions made 4 years ago, set the course, that cannot be changed now.

9:47 AM  
Blogger mrsleep said...

I had season tickets to the 49ers for over 20 years. The really loyal fans would stay to the final whistle, even if the 49ers trailed by 20+ points.

The loyalists would view the fans leaving early to beat the traffic as false fans, or bandwagon fans.

The wingnuts are trying to paint a picture that the Dem's are false Patriots, and soft on Terrorism, aka, "Bandwagon Patriots".

The game is over. What's going to happen is going to happen. We're just delaying the inevitable.

9:51 AM  
Blogger Capt. Fogg said...

Judging by Bush's ratings, the number of people with IQs of 50 and under seems to be about 28%

10:50 AM  
Blogger Reign of Reason said...

Why does ANYONE pay any attention to what the VP says?

He has been so consistently wrong that any word coming from his mouth should induce a fit of laughter from the press and the public.

I guess people enjoy living in a fantasy world of their own construction... Fun for the individual, but tragic when the ring leader is running the government's foreign policy.

1:26 PM  
Blogger Crankyboy said...

The other big idea is that people call them incompetent as if the "plan" was a good one and just got screwed up during translation. It was a bad plan executed badly by bad people.

9:55 AM  
Anonymous forobama08 said...

You're absolutely right! And part of the reason I'm for Obama is that while the Clintons weren't as bad as the Bush-Cheney gang, they are certainly complicit. Clinton unnecessarily bombed Iraq in '98 and Hillary voted for the war, and she had to know it was for war authorization. I don't know what I'll do if she gets nominated!! Maybe vote for Nader, but that could hand it to McCain or Romney or whichever Repug gets it in '08; could be 2000 all over again - no Nader, Gore's Prez

10:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is ridiculous. Cheney planned this long stay in Iraq "for the profit of Halliburton"? First of all, before we went to war, Bush said this would not be a short ordeal many had in mind. So he didn't lie, and we went to war. Now everyone is complaining that we're in a lost war. Intelligent. And then we begin to accuse Cheney of suffering from dementia. These arguments clearly are logical.

And mrsleep, you have accused those of agreeing with Bush to be mentally handicapped. Is this really the most mature way of arguing a point?

capt.fogg, you have recently informed me that 28% of America is suffering from a mental problem, you and mrsleep should check yourselves in.

reign of reason, i doubt that. You too believe that over a quarter of americans are delusional. This argument just keeps getting more creative.

Crankboy, if you really believe the most powerful nation in the world should do nothing when innocent people are getting killed by a cruel dictator, well you decide how messed up you are.

forobama, the fact that you consider actually going out and wasting your vote on nader speaks for itself.

This article also claims that Bush is backed by Republicans. I would just like to mention that with an approval rating of 30%, and America being 47% Republican, that doesn't make mathematical sense.

I dont agree with the war. I do however believe America has a responsibility as the greatest country in the world to root out evil wherever it lurks. Doesn't human nature demand that when you can help someone, you should?
You can hold your opinions to yourselves, but please do better than to label people as suffering from dementia, and retarded. You're not helping yourselves that way.

here's a taste of your own medicine.

5:46 PM  

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